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Reverend Al Sharpton
7 Sep 2022 3:30 pm
7 Sep 2022 3:30 pm
LibDave » 07 Sep 2022, 2:54 pm » wrote: Perhaps.  There are differences.  My opinion is there is no break even point.  Which is why i consider it more of an entitlement.  Entitled at a certain age.  Government funded.  Loses money.

For example, if you consider SS to be a sort of insurance policy for the event you reach old age then it could be compared to a retirement account.  However, a major difference is a retirement account remains yours and is passed on to your heirs when you die.  The rules regarding survivor benefits are ridiculous in comparison with a retirement account.  I'm familiar with these as I worked with a friend of mine with 6 children who was widowed.  We'll call her Debbie.
Why not Shondra? Why it gotta be a patty name?
LibDave » 07 Sep 2022, 2:54 pm » wrote: Debbie had 6 children with her husband.  Her husband died of Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma before either reached retirement age.  She didn't work and was a stay at home mom.  Survivor benefit rules meant she was entitled to 50% of her husbands eligibility for 18 years.  Of her 6 children (1 adopted) only 1 was still below the age of 18.  Surviving children over the age of 18 receive no benefits.  Each child under age 18 can receive a portion of the remaining 50% up to 1/6th of the  benefit amount until age 18.  So in Debbie's case her husbands benefit was about 18,000 per year after paying in for 40 years.  We'll call it 20K/year to make it easy.  So Debbie gets 10,000/year for 18 years and her 11 year old daughter gets 1/6th of that for 7 years until she turns 18 or about 1,700/year.  All told, 11,700 for 7 years then 10,000 for 11 or about 190,000 over 18 years if she lives that long.  Yet at just 2% rate of return it would be over twice that much.
Das physical conservatizum.

I's all for mo'.
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